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Subject RE: VO challenges - article
From "Jones, Mark B" <Mark.B.Jones@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date Wed, 28 Oct 2015 14:08:03 +0000

I thought the argument was that there was no risk, just a lack of
understanding.


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> From: Warren Anderson [mailto:wganderson12@xxxxxxxxx]
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> To: Tom Scavo <trscavo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Jones, Mark B <Mark.B.Jones@xxxxxxxxxxx>; Cantor, Scott
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> Subject: Re: [refeds] VO challenges - article
> 
> My guess is that I will have great difficulty accepting the risk in a way
that
> satisfies IdPOs, because my research VO is NOT a legal entity and cannot
sign
> legally binding contracts itself. Which means that some institution that
supports
> the research is going to have to sign it on behalf of SPs throughout the
VO,
> most of which are operated at other institutions. But that is almost the
identical
> model to what we have now - some campus is accepting perceived risk
induced
> by the actions of persons they have no control over or any real interest
in.
> 
> Or is there some other way for me to accept risk that would provide
acceptable
> reassurances.
> 
> On Oct 27, 2015, at 17:38 , Tom Scavo <trscavo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Warren Anderson
> <wganderson12@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> So, is there something we can have the R&S SPs do to mitigate the
perceived
> risk?
> >
> > Yes, I think there is. The current model forces the IdP operator to
> > assume the risk but clearly the SP owner is the benefactor of
> > attribute release. It seems to me that the SP owner must *explicitly*
> > accept the risk of attribute release. That requires a different model,
> > I'm afraid.
> >
> > Tom

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