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Subject Re: WPA problem and eduroam
From "Miroslav Milinovic" <miro@xxxxxxx>
Date Wed, 3 Dec 2008 12:38:50 +0100

Tomasz,

Yes it does, but no university can run AES only without kicking off a
significant number of users. And if we want to be guest-friendly then we
should not disable TKIP on our eduroam SSID at least for quite some time.
The fact that the policy allows us to run: dynamic WEP, WPA/TKIP,
WPA2/AES is exactly the problem. With a single SSID we have no option
but allow that, but this network will never work according to the
scenario "start your device and be on-line". eduroam2 can bring us a lot
closer to this, and what is more important, opens a path for achieving this.

I do acknowledge the "cypher mash" problem you're pointing to but may position is that we should not introduce new mash (SSID based: eduroam, eduroam2, eduroam3, ... eduroamx, eduroan-ng?) to resolve the current one. That is just closing one and opening another (IMO bigger) problem.

I do fear that by introducing eduroam2 we are making big step back when it comes to the usability of the service. In time eduroam2 will be common thing, eduroam SSID will "die", and WPA/AES will have a successor ... what to do then (with SSIDs)?

On the other hand I do not fear to propose more constrains in the policy or least write that WPA/AES is in the "SHOULD status". If at least 50% of our users have the equipment that will work Ok with WPA/AES then IMHO we should start serious thinking on progressing in that area. We'll never be able to satisfy the ones with old or exotics clients - the realistic goal is to reduced that number as much as possible.

Regards

Miro