Re: CUI reloaded

[Tomasz Wolniewicz <twoln@xxxxxx>]

Hi Stefan,
stefan.winter@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > Well no, I would prefer to tell them to turn off accounting, regardless
> > of the fact if they want to use CUI or not. What business do you have
> > as the IdP administrator to know how many bytes your roaming users are
> > transferring and at which places? These bytes do not belong to you,
> > they belong to the SP. The SP is not charging IdP for these bytes, so
> > this information should not be made available in the name of protecting
> > user's privacy.
>
> Well, that's a valid argument for most of Europe, yes, but there are 
> other regions without "flatrate" outbound connectivity, for whom it 
> actually is important to know how much traffic their users generated.
> This situation led in Australia to the VPN-only solution, so that 
> users will generate outbound traffic originating in their home 
> institution. AFAIK, in AU it is being looked into replacing this with 
> sending accounting information for backoffice cross-inst compensation. 
> So, I would feel very bad dismissing Accounting completely.
Again, I would like to argue that, unless you are telling me that if a 
user from our University is going to use eduroam in Australia than I am 
going to receive a bill.
Are Australian universities charging each other form roaming? If not, 
then I ask once again: what business do I have in knowing how many bytes 
my user pushed while visiting Australia?

Concerning the FR support for doing the right thing in accounting - 
sounds good. Even if accounting records are not proxied but stored 
locally, this would be useful anyway.

Tomasz

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