TF-MSP Meeting 9/10 November 2010
Time and Place
TERENA Offices
AMSTERDAM
Time: 11:00 Tuesday 9 November
until 13:00 Wednesday 10 November 2010.
List of Participant Registrations
Meeting Theme
This meeting of TF-MSP will focus on the managerial (i.e. non-technical) aspects of installing and managing dark fibre networks in the NREN context.
A list of issues that will be explored during the meeting is provided below. The meeting is not a forum for presentations on the technical aspects of dark fiber networks roll-out.
Agenda
Tuesday 9 November
- 11:00-11:15 Introduction
TF-MSP Chairman: Walter van Dijk, SURFnet - 11:15-13:00 Presentations
- The NORDunet CBF model and
operational
requirements
Stefan Liström and Jørgen Qvist, NORDunet - Lessons Learned on issues of availability, repair time, penalties . . .
Paul Noomen, SURFnet - From leased capacity to a dark fibre BELNET network: lessons learned
Dirk Haex, BELNET - DF activities at NIIFI
Janos Mohacsi, NIIFI - 13:00-14:00 Lunch
- 14:00-17:00 Breakout Discussions
Wednesday 10 November
- 09:00-10:30 Presentations
- Collaborating with institutions; regional governments in deploying and managing Dark fibre networks connections
Koen Schelkens, BELNET - Fibre initiatives in the South Eastern Europe
Yannis Mitsos, GRNET - Next Generation Systems
Willi Huber, SWITCH - RedIRIS-NOVA: Real experiencies of tendering and deploying an optical network in
Spain
Alberto Perez and Esther Robles, RedIRIS - 10:30-11:00 Coffee
- 11:00-13:00 Breakout Discussions
- 13:00 Meeting Close and Lunch
Additional Material
Breakout Group Notes
- Summary of Meeting: "Dos & Don'ts Regarding Managed Dark Fiber" and Breakout Group I Notes
- Breakout Group II Notes
From NORDUnet:
- Dark Fibre Evaluation with OTDR
- Dark Fibre Evaluation Tests
- Dark Fibre Evalution Report
- Dark Fibre Evaluation Report - Appendix 1
Issues to be explored during the meeting:
- If you were to advise another NREN regarding the acquisition of managed dark fibre infrastructure which three lessons would you want to share?
- What are the three main items that you currently consider to be a potential threat for your managed dark fibre network (e.g. bankruptcy provider, earthquake etc.)?
- Housing/co-location: should an NREN choose to locate its PoPs at the premises of customers or are professional data-centres the best location for PoPs?
- Providers: should an NREN try to select a few or even a single provider at the dark fibre layer or should we (solely) focus on standards and have many regional/local providers of dark fibre?
- Contract model: is ownership of dark fibre a viable option or should an NREN prefer a (long-term) lease model?
- Payment model: is a payment model of upfront payments and small periodic payments for maintenance an adequate model or are periodic payments the best guarantee the required service-levels?
- Economic point of view (costs, funding models, possible use of European Regional Development Funds, etc.);
- Legal point of view (e.g., experience with competitive dialogue, how IRUs are defined, etc.) Point of view of project planning (e.g., problems caused by administrative licences needed to deploy new fibre when it is needed, overlapping of the deployment of the new dark fibre network with the existing backbone)
- Technical point of view - focusing on the main features of the network and equipment, as well as on those technical issues which are more relevant from a managerial point of view (degree of subcontracting, whether equipment is leased or not, number of PoPs, problems related to the housing facilities of those PoPs, managing networks from different providers, etc).
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